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The Bible vs The Quran

quran-vs-bible-2I can understand the perspective of those who say that both writings have awful verses that demand awful things.

The Quran can only be somewhat comparable to the Bible’s Old Covenant. Only one of the books pictured has a New Covenant.

Jesus of Nazareth ushered in a new way that overrules the old way. Love the Lord AND love thy neighbor.

The Bible teaches us to love even those who won’t convert. The Quran teaches its followers to destroy those who don’t believe its teachings.

I’m so grateful for Jesus.

I wish more of His followers would behave more like Him.


Tough Questions about giving to the Poor…as Jesus commands.

Seth Godin wrote the following…

“It’s difficult to be a generous skeptic. Not only do we have to be clear and cogent and actionable, but we cross a social boundary when we speak up. We might be rejected, or scolded, or made to feel dumb. And of course there’s the risk that we’ll get our hopes up that something will improve, only to see it revert to the status quo.

So, most of the time, we don’t bother.

But when someone does care enough (about you, about the opportunity, about the work or the tool), the ball is in your court.

You can react to the feedback by taking it as an attack, deflecting blame, pointing fingers to policy or the CEO. Then you’ve just told me that you don’t care enough to receive the feedback in a useful way.

Or you can pass me off to a powerless middleman, a frustrated person who mouths the words but makes it clear that the feedback will never get used. Another way to show that you don’t care as much as I do. And if you don’t care, why should I?

One other option: you can care even more than I do. You can not only be open to the constructive feedback, but you can savor it, chew it over, amplify it. You can delight in the fact that someone cares enough to speak up, and dance with their insight and contribution.”

With That thought…I am taking the risk of being a what Seth calls, a generous skeptic.  I’ve been called worse! LOL…Below are my thoughts…

How many years have we as Christians been doing good in Africa?  After all the years of volunteering, creating 501c3’s, and other movements for doing good in God’s name…what have we changed?

Extreme poverty is still enslaving way too many in Africa and all other 3rd world countries.

Here’s my challenge…

I challenge all Christians to stop simply giving handouts…as good as that is…and do something great by working together towards creating self sufficiency in places that are literally imprisoned by extreme poverty because of welfare mentalities that have developed after decades, maybe centuries, of handouts.

Some might say, “we must give…we can’t get a starving person to listen to the good news of Jesus if their stomach is growling, so we must feed the hungry.”  My reply is, Duh!…but if all we do is keep feeding the hungry, then our love of giving will entrap the hungry to depend on us to feed them for the rest of their lives.  That is not some ignorant guess…that is a proven fact after hundreds of years of trying to change 3rd world countries…with no poverty conquering results to prove otherwise.

If all we do is continue to ship food, clothing, etc over to Africa, then we are a part of the problem, not the solution.  Have you ever wondered what would happen if we took all the money used to create and ship food to Africa and instead used it to create agriculture programs in the rich and fertile soil of Africa, or used it to create business/economy training for the incredibly intelligent 3rd world citizen…, we would wipe out hunger and lack of economy in record time!  Possibly in just one generation.

Another question we must start asking…As loving and kind as Child Sponsorship is…is it conquering the BIG PICTURE problems of 3rd world countries? (If the answer is yes, then show me the facts)  Your sponsorship pays for that child’s education and some food and supplies…do you know what kind of school your sponsored child is attending?  Do you know how much of the money invested goes to feeding and educating that child?  If you are doing the good work of paying for that child to be blessed…are you asking questions about the plan for that child to learn how to stand on his/her own two feet to conquer their personal poverty?  Many of the schools in Africa have a 1 Teacher to more than 500 students ratio.  They may be going to school, but is their any learning going on?  Is your Child Sponsorship program steadily engraining a welfare mentality in the child you support and the community he/she lives in?

Those who are committed to Child Sponsorship are very loyal to it.  I understand.  I see the beauty of relationship in Child Sponsorship. However, in the shadows of Child Sponsorship, are many questions that I’m not sure are being asked.  Like…is there a better way?  Is it possible that my supporting one child actually hurts the whole community?  Is the money I give even going to the child?  Is anybody asking if Child sponsorship is simply a money making business model?  I have heard two Child Sponsorship organizations, on the inside, say, “Child Sponsorship is the ‘bread and butter’ that sustains our organization.”  Is anybody asking if Child Sponsorship is supposed to even be a business?  I know that helping one child in sponsorship matters to that one child, just like the starfish stuck on the beach story, but why…after hundreds of years…are things not improving in 3rd world countries?  Is anybody asking…”is there a better way?”  “Are we being successful in our ultimate goals to love our neighbor?”  On the surface it looks as if we love that Child and community by giving, but if we are actually creating a welfare state, are we truly loving our neighbor?

I fear that some American Organizations might be cognizant of the fact that if we train the people in Africa to grow great food and learn to sustain themselves, or realize that child sponsorship might be a part of the big picture problem, then many of them wouldn’t be needed today in America and thus many American’s wouldn’t get the paychecks they receive monthly and would have to find different work to provide for their families.  (Is anybody asking these questions today?)  I do not intend to insult…I intend to be a part of lasting solutions that really demonstrate love for the least of these.)  Someday, we all stand before Jesus and the motives of our hearts will be revealed.

On that note…if you are tempted…

Please do not irresponsibly drop your child sponsorship.  I’m simply challenging all readers….IS ANYBODY ASKING THESE TOUGH QUESTIONS TODAY?  I think there is great danger is just blindly giving. There is greater danger in not asking these questions and thus blindly giving in a loving way to the demise and entrapment of 3rd world countries.  But it seems so loving to help thew way we do.

Now…on the other side of this story is the 501c3 organization that is being forced to report its financials publicly.  They must make their financial decisions based off your ability to see those decisions via website and your demands.  This is a double edged sword.  I realize accountability and transparency are important.  But you need to know it is full of hypocrisy.  If you are demanding a 501c3 to report is weekly and monthly financials….are you doing this in your personal life?  If you are a Ministry and are giving of your tithes to a 501c3 Mission org, and at the same time demanding them to answer all your questions and have full details in front of you…then…are you doing this for your contributors as well?  If you are a contributor and you are demanding that the mission org you support must tell you how much money is going toward administrative costs…Are you asking that of your local church pastor, your local bank, your local education, your local taxes, your local schools?  Or just that 501c3?  I find it fascinating that our Christian world has demanded the “do good” organizations to have to report it’s financials, administrative costs, etc on public websites to be graded and given stars by that website to help the public “trust” that specific grade so they feel secure in giving towards that orgs work.

Where are the websites that do this to every Church that sits on the street corners of America?  Where is the grade for them?  Pasting the pastor’s salary for the whole world to see.  What about the local bank, the local Starbuck’s manager’s salary.  If you require it of a world mission organization, then it must be required of you to paste your take home salary, your expenditures and how much you give as an American Christian for Tithes and offerings.  Don’t require of others what you won’t do yourself.  In case you are wondering, I do not buy into that game.  I will never post such information.  If you would like to know what Return Hope does with every penny, just give me a call, let’s set up an appointment and I’ll put it all in front of you to see our integrity and where every penny goes.  I will expect you to bring your personal financial reports so I can see where all your money goes as well.  That is fair.  Please live by the following standard of Jesus, “Treat others like you would like to be treated yourself.”  Luke 6:31

I do not think there anything wrong with asking organizations the tough accountability questions.  I know for a fact that there are organizations who have made a great profit being a non-profit? I’m not sure that is completely wrong.  Much good work is taking place under that non for profit-profit making org.  This whole blog is simply a way to get some questions started in your head about how successful we all are really being in our ministry efforts to solve some huge world problems.   I am not a fan of the organization that takes advantage of people who give to them.  I’m not sure the full answers to stop such evil.  I do not think we can stop it.  There is a ton of craftiness that takes place behind closed door staff meetings and accounting meetings.  We must ask the tough questions.  We must seek accountability, but my issue is that you cannot demand it and then not do it personally yourself.   There is a lot of huckster and hypocrital behavior taking place under the name of Jesus.   Have you ever heard of “selling of indulgences” from the dark days of religion?  (if not…Google it)  From the outward appearance…paying for an indulgence seemed a beautiful and wise thing….but in truth it was pure evil done under the umbrella of good.  Pure profiteering off of the poor, done in the name of religion.  It happened for so long that even the manipulative leaders began to believe it was biblical and right.

Is the billions of dollars being raised to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give water to the thirsty, etc…being used to its fullest potential?  Is all the money we are throwing at these horrid problems actually solving problems or creating bigger ones?

Are you part of the problem in 3rd world countries?  Please be intelligent in your love and obedience to honor the commands of Jesus found in the last few paragraphs of Matthew 25.

We as American’s love to give.  It makes us feel good.  The Bible tells us that it is better to give than to receive.  Therein lies our problem. Is it possible that in our giving we have consequentially taught the recipient that it is “better” to receive?

If I am a citizen of a 3rd world country and my daily needs were met through contributions from America…why would I be motivated to solve my owe needs?   All I have to do is show up each day to be fed.  Why should I work?

I am in Africa regularly.  Everywhere I go in Uganda I am surrounded by rich fertile soil and a huge population of very smart and strong local people.  But most of the locals come running with hands outstretched in the universal language of “Help me, I’m in need.”  All the while chanting a name that refers to you… “Mizungoo“… as you pull up in your mission trip vehicle to hand out more goods.  The term Mizungoo pretty much means, “White American with Money”.

I hate the term Mizungoo…for them to even chant it, is like a brainwashing mantra engraining into their psyche that they will never be good enough or capable enough…that they will forever have to wait on the Mizungoo to help them have any kind of quality in life.  We as the Mizungoo get off our bus and start giving.  Dresses for the little girls, soccer balls for the little boys, we arrive with toothpaste, sugar and toiletries, shoes, jeans, our old clothes, etc, etc, etc.  Giving is good!….right?  And we think it’s cute to buy Mizungoo Tshirts at the airports on the way home from our life changing mission trip.

Has any Mizungoo ever asked the little girl who is lined up in a row of hundred others waiting to be handed a new pillow case dress…if she wants to work hard and earn a beautiful new dress of her choice?   So…when she picks it out after earning it by getting better grades or doing a work routine for a solid week, she will take total ownership in her chosen dress and be very proud of a lesson in life that has been learned…HARD WORK PAYS OFF!   The alternative is to just make sure you pay attention so that when the Mizungoos pull up in their mission trip busses, you fight and claw your way to be in the first 100 in line to make sure you get a dress, and then repeat it next summer.  Why would I ever learn to work hard and provide for myself, if all I have to do is hold my hand out and receive food, water, clothing, medical treatment every time a Mizungoo group comes into town?  It is the same with soccer balls, candy, medical supplies, etc.

There is something special that happens to a girls dignity, when she works hard and earns the opportunity to enter a room full of dresses to pick out the color of her hearts desire!  Or…she can stand in line, lift her hands, and have the mizungoo put the color they think will be best for her.  Is that how you would like your daughter to be treated and trained?  Are little girls in 3rd world countries not as good as your daughter?

MISSION TRIPS…

The way American Mission Orgs do mission trips is comparable to going to the zoo.  All the people with money buy tickets to come and visit the animals.  We pack some food and water and gifts for the animals.  The caged being comes running when they see us and we ooh and aah and take pictures with these unique creatures so we can run home and show everybody how cool our zoo trip was.  When those who were afraid to go to the zoo with you, see all your pictures, they tell you how brave and good you are.  It feels good to visit the zoo.  We feel important after visiting the zoo and seeing such unique things and doing such a good thing. funny-lion-cage-zoo-guy

Has anybody ever asked the zoo animal if they would prefer to not live in a cage?  Do they feel humiliated sitting in their cage to wait for the workers and visitors to feed them.  Has anybody ever asked the Lion if he’d prefer to hunt for his own food?  Has anybody asked the tiger if all the pictures are actually humiliating?   However, after a while, the unique creatures we keep in the cage at the zoo, get used to the cage. It forgets what its like to live in the wild, free.  Do it long enough and beautiful babies are born in the zoo cage and they don’t know the difference. They never knew what it was like to live free.  They prefer the cage.  They get very excited when they know new visitors are coming to see them and take more pictures of them stuck in a cage, but they love the new gifts that come with them.  The beautiful caged creatures are confident the zoo entry fee will pay for their food and care for the rest of their lives.  In a cage.

OTHER QUESTIONS…back to the point…

Why would an orphanage work to grow its own food, if time after time it continually just has to sit and wait for shipment containers to show up with the scientifically subsidized rice, beans and vitamins to live on?  All the while some company in America is making a pretty good business out of it all.  I think it is the 21st century’s form of slavery.   It cost 15,000 US dollars to ship one of these containers full of food.  Is anybody asking any questions about all the open acres that are sitting idle in Africa not growing food?   How much would it cost to train the whole orphanage to grow and produce their own crops.  How many young orphans would come of out that orphanage ready to start their own agriculture life?  Or…we Americans can just feel good about lazily giving our check to see that those people get fed…”In Jesus name…Amen!”  Its all so zoo-ish.

These are just a few of the questions.  I could write on for pages more.  Do you get my point?

What is the solution?  Real solutions will never be solved by just writing a check!  That is only the tiny beginning.  Real solutions break down the cage and let the beautiful out!  True beauty is most beautiful when it is living in its God given nature.  We must begin to work smarter in how we solve 3rd world extreme poverty.

The solution is for every American Organization that intends to help 3rd world countries, literally stop giving handouts.  Nothing should be given unless there is even just a small reciprocation of work.  We must begin to train and develop industry, economy and work ethic.

A good small example is when Return Hope’s Ugandan director came across a widow’s home where she was raising 3 young children on her own.  She had nearly nothing.  Inside her little mud hut were a couple pieces of foam that her children slept on, their clothes were in tatters.  Their environment of living in the dirt was written all over them.  They looked exhausted.  They were exhausted.

It seems the right thing to do would be to simply buy them new clothes, mattresses, and improve the overall condition of this family. That is what would feel good to me.  And to them.  But…I refused to give them anything.  I told our director to meet with this mother and her children and explain that we would help them, but all we asked in return was some work and ownership on their part.  Would they help clean up the school grounds, wipe the chalkboards, and serve in their community?  Yes!  They were all smiles!  Of course they did all that and more.  Do you think they are taking great ownership in their new mattresses and clothes, they earned?  You bet they are.  Do you think they are spending more time around the school now?  Do you think they will see the new school building going up and now they can come in and work hard and in return develop an education.  You bet!   The alternative would have them simply wearing out their new items until another giver comes along.

There are simple answers to the problems all our loving-giving has created.  It will be no simple task in getting people who are living on welfare to relearn how God intended life to be…WORKed out!  It will be no simple task to get Americans who would prefer to just write a check, to also get out and get their hands dirty in the work of teaching and training….not just giving.

The solution?…Nobody get’s anything unless they invest some time, talent or treasure!

No more handouts.  Its causing great poverty and pain.

I challenge you, your not for profit org, or anybody, to start being a part of the solution.

Please don’t let your GOOD giving be detrimental to the GREAT work that we need to be accomplishing.

Good is the enemy of Great!

Let’s conquer extreme poverty!  It begins with you and me.

I vow that Return Hope will be a part of the solution.

Trent


Having Done in Room 1501 (Wk 16-17) :) Color outside the lines! :)

THIS POST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FERGUSON RIOTS! LOL

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I am at the end of my 17th week of being a first time professional teacher.  I’ve been on Thanksgiving break all week…which is officially week 17.  I haven’t blogged on week 16 until now…well…because I’ve been on T-Giving break!

Last week, as we closed down our 16th week to get ready for this great break I’ve been on, we had an all School Thanksgiving Chapel service.  The chapel service is how Friday ended.  We were done by 10:30 AM that Friday and everybody was so excited to get off campus and begin our full 9 day break!!

Before I talk about what I learned from the All School Chapel Service, I simply want to say, it is a true challenge to try to teach the Students of Room 1501 the entire week, when they know they have a full 9 days of break coming up.  ADD, ADHD, SPASTIC KIDS, TROUBLE MAKERS & RULE BREAKERS come out of the cracks and push any adult irritation button they can find. 🙂

I didn’t mind.  I was one of those students too.  In fact, I’m going to guess that you have trouble focusing at work when you know a big vacation is coming up.   So, I planned for it.  I prepared for the week to be of a lighter subject in Room 1501.  It made for a good week. “If you can’t beat em…join em!”  And when I say “beat em”…I mean it in all senses.  LOL

On Friday, this Chapel service was really great.  See Pic. TGiving Chapel pic

We sang songs, watched video footage of different people saying what they were thankful for.  Played some silly games, prayed, listened to a great message from Pastor Patrick Youngs and then we ran for the parking lot to begin our Thanksgiving Vacation.

I was reminded of something at this chapel service.  Again, it was an all School Chapel Day.  This means that ALL students K-12 were in attendance.  As the chapel service progressed, there was great excitement coming from the 4th Grade and below age groups.  When the speaker asked for a response, this age group complied enthusiastically.  When the worship leader was leading us in song, this same age group sang at the top of their lungs!  They laughed out loud when things were funny. They were fully engaged.

I think this age group is special.  I wish this age group’s carefree and uninhibited demeanor is how we all behaved for the rest of our lives.  I think this type of Child is what Jesus meant when He said, 17 I tell you the truth, anyone who doesn’t receive the Kingdom of God like a child will never enter it.”  Luke 18:17 NLT

These kids were inspiring to watch and listen to.  They were fully engaged and they obviously didn’t care about the High School and Middle School Age Group’s potential of making fun of them for such “silly behavior.”

I think you know what I mean.  These young kids would do about anything.   They have great courage and are unrestrained.  Some of the sophisticated types might call them, undignified.

That word, undignified, is found in a great Bible story of King David…He came dancing into town in front of the Ark of the Covenant after a great battle.  His wife saw him  and didn’t just roll her eyes but scolded him for such undignified behavior that was not befitting of a king.  I love King David’s reply….In fact…here is the story… It is found in 2 Samuel 6:16-21

16 But as the Ark of the Lord entered the City of David, Michal, the daughter of Saul, looked down from her window. When she saw King David leaping and dancing before the Lord, she was filled with contempt for him.17 They brought the Ark of the Lord and set it in its place inside the special tent David had prepared for it. And David sacrificed burnt offerings and peace offerings to the Lord. 18 When he had finished his sacrifices, David blessed the people in the name of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. 19 Then he gave to every Israelite man and woman in the crowd a loaf of bread, a cake of dates, and a cake of raisins. Then all the people returned to their homes.20 When David returned home to bless his own family, Michal, the daughter of Saul, came out to meet him. She said in disgust, “How distinguished the king of Israel looked today, shamelessly exposing himself to the servant girls like any vulgar person might do!”21 David retorted to Michal, “I was dancing before the Lord, who chose me above your father and all his family! He appointed me as the leader of Israel, the people of the Lord, so I celebrate before the Lord.22 I will become even more undignified than this, and I will be humiliated in my own eyes. But by these slave girls you spoke of, I will be held in honor.”

When was the last time you were undignified in an honorable child-like pure way?

When was the last time you rolled down the windows of your car and sang the song on the radio as loud as you could?

When was the last time you struck up a conversation with a total stranger?

When was the last time you made a mud pie or played in the dirt?

Run through a sprinkler?

When was the last time you giggled so hard, your stomach hurt?

Built a sand castle?

Play with play-dough?

Build a fort using only blankets and couch cushions?couch fort

Finger paint using only pudding?

Jump on a trampoline?

Watching the young kids at the All School Thanksgiving Chapel reminded me of how cool it is to be a kid.  Something happens in us when we “grow up”.  I’m not sure its a good thing.  In another passage of scripture Jesus said, “”Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 18:3 NIV

If I were Jesus I would have had the Apostle Paul add another Spiritual Gift to the lists found in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12 … I would have had Paul add… “The Spiritual Gift of Immaturity.”

I have this gift.  Just ask the students in Room 1501.  I say things that the average Bible Teacher doesn’t say.  I say things the typical preacher doesn’t say.  It has gotten me in trouble with the people I like to call, “Old Grumpy Pants!”  It will continue to get me in trouble. I’m really okay with that fact.

Life is so short.

We all need to lighten up.

Go get the crayons out.  Color a picture.  Color outside the lines.  Then…bring it to me or send it with your student.

I’ll tac it on the wall of Room 1501. color outside the lines

It’ll inspire others to be child like.

It will brighten someone’s day.

It will give me a story to tell.

I’ll bet God will use it to change a life.

Trent


Having Done in Rm 1501! (Week2…I am full!)

Week two as a first year teacher is complete!  Except I have some papers to finish grading and a few emails to get out. photoI have some students and a few parents to notify about the impact they are having on their sons and daughters…and it is showing in the classroom.

By impact, I mean positive and negative.   Parents are so powerful.  Mothers and Fathers are so powerful.  The impact of, “I am so proud of who you are.”  The impact of, “You are a whore.”   I can see what phrase the students heard, just hours ago at home, by simply looking into their eyes as they enter Rm 1501.  My students know they aren’t always great kids, but that doesn’t excuse certain phrases that come out of mom’s and dad’s mouth.

Two school weeks in and I have had many moments where I just want to drop the curriculum plan for the day and just walk around and hug these sophomores, juniors, and seniors to let them know how loved they are.  How important they are.

I spent all morning reading through and grading papers that I asked my students in Rm 1501 to write.  I asked them to write anything they learned this week and how it applied to their life.  This pic is just one fun example of one paragraph I found on the back of a student’s paper. photo

I wish you could read them all…you would never be the same.

I laughed as I read some really funny comments.  I was inspired as I read about hopes and dreams and biblical understanding.  I cried when I read some things.  I cried hard.   The home is supposed to be the safest place on earth for a child.  I wish I could promise all of my students, in Rm 1501, that all their homes are a safe haven to be themselves and to be free. That is a promise I can’t keep and they know it. So, the only thing I can do, is make Rm 1501 the safest place on earth.  A foretaste of Heaven.

My students know I mean that.  Some are still a little nervous, but they are learning to trust that this is going to be a great year in Rm 1501…no matter what life brings their way…they know how real it is going to be and that they can safely contribute to that real-ness.

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I have so taken my teachers and my kid’s teachers for granted.  I can’t believe how hard the work is. I know every job has a hard factor to it.  But teaching…wow…I had no idea.  I have never been so tired.

As a new teacher, I am firmly aware of what teachers get paid.  I also know that teachers don’t do what they do for a money reward.

I am so grateful for what happens on the campus at Joy Christian School, but even more so in Rm 1501.  I am full.  I am content.  I am accepted.  We laugh at each other in such a positive and safe way. We wrestle with questions that I have never dealt with in any other form of 23 years of ministry work.  My feet, back, vocal chords, mental, and emotional assets have never been so tired.

But I am full.

I wish you could be a teacher for just two weeks.

I am so excited for Monday.

 

 

 

 

 


World Revision (Post 3 of 3)

For those of you who have been following the post about the World Vision controversy…finally…here is post 3 of 3.  If you haven’t read posts 1 and 2, I would encourage you to do so first by clicking their links right here.

WORLD VISION CONTROVERSY BLOG POST 1 of 3

WORLD REVISION BLOG POST 2 of 3

Continuing with Post 3 of 3…

I have been trying to figure out how to blog on this without it being an entire book.  So…I spoke at a Church called “Just Church” in Surprise AZ recently.  My message is my blog post 3 of 3.  I wish the message was video, but it’s only audio.  As you are listening…I have 3 “stations” on stage.  Hot…Lukewarm…Cold.  You’ll hear me go back and forth to each location as I walk us through what the Bible means when it says there are different kinds of sins.

To be clear…

The Bible does NOT say that “no sin is greater than any other sin.”  In fact…the Bible is clear…there are, for sure, 2 different levels of sin.  My message spells this fact out.

To help you envision what is happening on the stage…the only visual I had on stage was a Jewish Prayer Shawl called a Tallit.  See Pic at right, so as you listen to the message you can imagine what it looks like when I am wearing the Tallit as I stand on the “Hot” station of the stage.  Tallit Pic

The Lukewarm station is in the middle of the stage and the Cold Station is the far right of the stage.  (To be clear…the Tallit can only be worn when I’m standing in the Hot Station on stage.  To have the Tallit on my head is to represent Jesus living in me.  It is impossible to have Jesus living in me while I am practicing sin (Lukewarm) or when I haven’t accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior yet. (Cold))

If you have questions after listening to the message, please just ask.  This message has a lot of controversy potential in it…but it was spoken in love…and it is Biblical Truth.

Too many people are calling themselves Christian and at the same time are living in direct disobedience to how the Bible says they are to live.  This kind of life is living Lukewarm.  Please listen to the message for clarity on this.

Here you go…Just click the link below and listen…The first words you’ll hear me speak are “Disgusting huh?”  I say that because the Church just showed a video clip of somebody throwing up…to prepare for the message called SPEW!  LOL … Please listen by clicking the link below…

JUST CHURCH “Spew” message spoken on June 1st, 2014

I love ya…and I’d do anything for you to help you follow Jesus more fervently.

Trent

 


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